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At any rate, that's good enough to go on in time of trouble. Anyway, every mine has a mine superintendent who knows how to run that mine. So it doesn't really matter how good an administrator there is in the Department of the Interior, because it's the mine superintendent and the head of the mine union who run the mine anyhow, and keep things moving.

I thought that this should be done in the name of the Secretary of the Interior, with the Bureau of Mines being his expert advisers. He had them right in his department. It's a logical place to put it for that reason. Ickes was avid for jobs, couldn't get enough authority to satisfy him, so I didn't think he would set up any obstacles against taking the job, although I knew it never occurred to him.

I questioned in my own mind whether I'd better sell this to John Lewis first, or to the President. I finally decided that I would go secretly to the President and swear him to keep his mouth shut, not talking to anybody, if he approved of it. So I went over to see him, using the back door, and said to him, “Now, what would you think of this?”

We had a little talk and he said, “I guess that's a good idea. Have you talked to Harold?”

I said, “No, and don't you dare say one word to Harold because if you do it'll never work. Don't mention it to him. If I can persuade John Lewis to like it, it'll be all right. If John Lewis doesn't like it, it won't work anyhow. It'll be a fizzle. We've got someway or other to get John Lewis





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