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It was the little human sidelights, rather than the actual content?

Yes. That's right. The content of the conversations was never, so far as I know, told in Cabinet meeting. I'm sure that he discussed it with those who had responsibilities in that field.

Then there's nothing strange about the fact that he didn't talk about Yalta?

Oh, no - no he never did. They went on to Teheran. I forget whether some of this he told me personally or not, because he often gassed to me a lot, so I get mixed up in my memory whether he told it to me personally or whether he told the whole Cabinet meeting. They went straight from Cairo to Teheran. Did't they make one flight? The plan was for Churchill to stay at the British Embassy in Teheran, and Roosevelt to stay at the American Embassy in Teheran, and everything had been prepared at the American Embassy for Roosevelt. He went there. The Russians had invited him to come to the Russian Embassy, you see, and he had said, “No, I'd better go to the American Embassy, It's our people. They'll be expecting us.”

Almost immediately upon their arrival - I forget whether it was the first day or the next morning - they