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definite pronouncements, and took a part in the conference that she wasn't supposed to take. Aired her mind and spoke out. I think she even gave an interview to the Press. That sort of thing.

That was youthful aggressive folly, you see. She knew she was John L. Lewis's daughter and she had absorbed that mount of pride. That amount of his pride had come over into her. That of course made it almost impossible to use her again, you know, for anything, because she had not been discreet. She had not taken the second place or the third place that she should have taken.

I merely cite that to indicate his concern for his children--a very, very sensitive concern for them. But he also understood--we never had to say anything about it-- that it wouldn't be a good idea to send Kathryn on anything else. He never suggested it again. He took care of her himself, in his own organization, and gave her all kinds of opportunities, and he's been very good about her.

When I say he had vanity, he enjoyed these smaller show-off jobs, you see, like the antiques and the fine house in Alexandria which he bought later. He didn't buy that early. He bought that about '36 or '37, I guess. Before he bought that house, he had rented another house there, and he began to have an occasional party to which he invited