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and his budget message. A lot of things have to be done in that period of the year.

On day in late November--one day in early December, I think it was--Lewis called and asked if he could see me. I invited him to come over. He said he had a few things he wanted to talk about. I scented that something was not quite right. Something was disturbing him. So I tried to make conversation about the legislative program for the next year. I talked rather completely about how we were getting up the legislative program and I think this is a good plan, don't you?

Yes, he thought that was very good.

I think this is good--now, would you approve of that, would you think this was a good scheme? I talked over three or four programs that we had in mind--the Wage Hour Act, which was then to be put in immediately, and changes in the Walsh-Healey Act, things of that sort.

“I'm very pleased to advise you about this,” said he.

Of course, I wasn't seeking advice, I was just trying to keep him from airing a grievance.

Then he finally said, “Is the President interested in these matters?”

I said, “Oh, yes. I haven't talked to him in detail