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with the President?

Yes, he did. He didn't “report back to me,” not in those words. But in the course of a conversation in a week or so later, he said, “I had a very satisfactory talk with the President yesterday, you'll be glad to know.”

He let me know that he had seen the President. The President of course also told me about their conversation, and he said, “This is just one of the things to remember, Frances,” he said, shaking his finger at me, “This is one of the things to remember, and you see to it that we do remember it. You can't be sure of these birds.”

I said, “Well, we've got to act as though we were sure, and we've got to do the same things we would do anyway.”

“Yes, that's right.”

I said, “One man's vanity and pride mustn't stand in the way of doing the things that we know are suitable and proper and right things for the labor people.”

“That's right, that's right, that's right. Don't let it cloud your vision,” I remember he said. “That's all right, but just remember it, that's all. Just remember it, and let's not get tangled up in these things again.”

I, of course, filtered this on to Jim, who by this time was wild, as he realized what Lewis was doing, you see-- the pressure he was putting on. “But,” I said, “don't let him