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talk about the New Deal. This is ‘win-the-War'”.

Well, that was a proper thing to say. What he meant by it was let us temporarily suspend these various humanitarian movements that we have been breathing into the law of the land, and bend all our energies on winning the War. When the War's over, we'll see what we can do then. “I'm not going to commit myself,” he meant.

That, of course, was partly to avoid the disruptions of the country that came about whenever you proposed anything like the Wage Hour Act or the farm business, or anything that was in the nature of help to the people. It at once started many people's hackles up, and you had a rumpus on your hands. The great point at the moment was to keep the country united and the people united, without regard to partisanship.

As a matter of fact, on the labor side--I don't remember how it was on the farm side, but on the labor side--working conditions were extremely good, you see, and the rule was laid down by those who were directing labor policy, without regard to law. You didn't have to have a law. You laid down good rules about one day of rest in seven, you see, and you insisted on it, and you laid down rules about overtime and how much overtime a man could be asked to work, and how he would parcel it out and stretch out the hours and still get his rest time. And, of course, the wages were higher than they had ever been