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fellow? Any objections?” They wouldn't have any objections, so they would get him. More and more extreme people came into it, you see?

I remember very little about the Convention of 144. I remember Barkley's withdrawal. I remember that we heard, we were told, that the decision had been made to nominate Truman, and he was promptly nominated, and that was that.

On the second ballot.

Yes--on the second ballot, which was very good.

Wallace had a feeling that he could have and should have won on the first ballot.

Did you have a feeling that whoever you were nominating, you were nominating for President?

No. I thought the President was going live--I mean, certainly he was going to live. I don't think they'd have nominated Truman if they hadn't thought he was going to live. I think-they would have nominated Barkley if they had thought the nominee was going to become President.

I mean, the high command didn't think that Truman was so wonderful, you know. He was a very good, competent Senator, and that was that. But I don't think they would think of it if thought they were nominating him for President.