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discrimination--race, color, creed, or sex“ clause. No discrimination about anything. That was interpreted by the Woman's Party, has been for years, as wiping out all this welfare legislation--all these widow's pensions and protective legislation applying only to women, not only for hours but for seats. For instance, the New York State Law is full of requirements that there should be seats for women.

You were opposed to this change they advocated?

Certainly I was opposed to it. That's why I was hanging on to the policy in the Platform Committee. Because the women of the Democratic Party were very much divided. I mean, the Woman's Party was a strong minority party There has always been a little handful of women fighting passionately for theory. They wish to abolish all protective legislation for women, all differences in the way women are treated and the way men are treated.

I think that's perfectly crazy.

Why, of course it's crazy.

Women are still women. You can legislate to beat hell, but--

Still their, backs ache more then men's backs ache when