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fatigue.

Yes. He died not long after.

Yes, and he was at the breaking point of fatigue. He just couldn't raise his hand again. This was the quickest and shortest way to do it, and he did it, and I've always felt that Harry should be forgiven for it, although it hurt Jones terribly. It hurt him and angered him.

It hurt and angered him to the point of writing the book he got out.

Yes, that was the reason he wrote the book, I'm sure.

That was a dreadful book.

I didn't read it. I must have it somewhere. But of course Jones had been, I thought, very helpful in many ways, in understanding many things. I mean, he was the fellow who was responsible for the theory “if we can build up the national income, we can take care of all these debts”, you see. I remember hearing him once: “If we can get the national income up to ninety billion dollars, we'll be all right.”

Jones has always been an enigma to me in terms of Roosevelt's Cabinet. He is the least--I mean, Stimson and