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I said, “But I would like to have it clear now so that I can say to the President that you approve of this, and this is how it should be.”

So I laid out my same old scheme, same old memoranda- the independence of the I.L.O., its own budget, its own charter, its own following, its own pattern that it had had for many years, the tripartite representation, the way the tripartite members were to be chosen, and so forth. The control of its own program, its own funds. We went over every item, and he said, “Yes. Yes. Yes.”

Then we said, “You seem to agree with us.”

He said, “Yes, I do. I think that's the proper position. Yes, I agree.” He said it to the British Ambassador and me, so that was that.

It wasn't very long after this that Churchill came, I then tried to tell the President, you see, that this had been agreed upon with Anthony Eden, and that I had had correspondence with Anuerin Bevin, the Labor Minister of England, indicating that he also agreed to this, and thought this was the proper way, and would instruct any delegates that he had anything to do with along these lines.

But of course, this also entered into higher echelons, because more than the British and ourselves had to be satisfied, you know. It was going to be in the Peace Treaty.

I said to the President, “Now, can I go ahead with