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and we took our seats. I remember feeling utterly exhausted, you know, from this effort to pull it out.

The picture went on. I remember it was a picture about bandits in Italy--The Sicilian Mafia. It was a purely commercial film, you know, about the Black Hand. I just remember that. It made an impression on me because of my own distraught state of mind. But I felt considerably better after that interview, and felt that I could speak authoritatively. Of course I went back and made some kind of a note of it which I pinned to my papers. Then we proceeded from that point on to organize and engineer the planning for the Peace Conference, the San Francisco Conference, with this in mind. It was a matter of making this firm.

Well, now then, here's what happened sometime between that occasion and I guess the departure of the President for Warm springs at the end of March, when he was going to write his speech for the United Nations--that was what he went down there for-- 1945. He went down there to write his speech for the United Nations. I've told you how I saw him the day before he went to Warm Springs. Oh, haven't I?

Sometime between that occasion and the time he went to Warm Springs to write his speech, and I don't recall the dates although those will show in my papers, I talked with the State Department. I remember that I put a memorandum





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