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as a delegation before we went over to the conference, to talk things over, report how things were going in various committees, how we could strengthen this or strengthen that. If we had differences of opinion between the employers and the labor people, we aired them in the whole delegation meeting. We didn't try to patch them up or pacify them, but at least we knew what they were. The employers and the labor people and the Government people knew each other very well and were together a great deal.

On this occasion, there was no such meeting at all. There was never a meeting, through the entire conference, of the whole delegation until I insisted upon it at the end. There was a great deal of secretarial work--oh my, the secretariat had been there for weeks. This was all arranged by the Department of Labor. Everything was cut and dried, you see. These daily meetings of the Government-delegates were all provided for, but no way of talking with the labor delegates or the employer delegates. You fell into the pattern that you didn't speak to each other. That was the way it was set up. That was the Department of Labor's arrangement--very unfortunate.

Toward the end I finally broke it up by insisting upon getting some kind of meeting of the two. At any rate, these men were very obnoxious. They were an embarrassment to us, they were an embarrassment to the whole delegation, and