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Well, I saw the idea, and I said, “See if you can't get it over to him.”

Anyhow, I began to make a play for this man, and I invited him to lunch with me one day when we weren't going to a luncheon. I had him and Mr. Norris come, and we ate lunch up at the League of Nations Building where there's a simple little dining-room. I tried to get on good terms with him, and I found out about him. I found out that he was a devoted Swiss. His mother and his grandmother and his grandfather had come from a little town way up in the mountains of Switzerland, and he'd been there last year to see the town where they came from, and people had treated him like a long-lost brother. He was pleased, and he was going back again.

Well, I kept bearing down on that, you know. “Why did your grandfather and grandmother come to America? Why do you suppose they came?”

Well, I got him finally to admit that there was a great chance to make a new life in America. Conditions were good, and people treated you right, and--you know. All the whole democratic theory came out of him when pressed about his personal affairs. He spoke so warmly about them, and so forth. He was not upstage.

I finally gave a dinner for him. I asked Sir John Forbes Watson, who was the British employers' delegate and quite a hard-boiled person, but a fair man and devoted to the





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