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“What!” I said.

“No, He has absolutely turned traitor to the working class.”

“Oh?” I said. “What do you mean?” “No, he is not interested in us. He has turned his back on us.”

“Why, what do you mean?”

“He has appointed no one for several months.”

“Well,” I said, “that isn't the test.”

“But he does not care about this World Federation. I tried to sell it to him. He does not care about it. He does not see that this is the life of labor.”

I began to be very alarmed and very startled at what he was saying. He said, “I am through with Roosevelt.” Then his nostrils swelled out, and he said, “We have used him. We have used him. It was very well to use him for a few years. We have used him, but he is through. He is finished. I wash my hands of him.”

Then he said, “And that goes for her too. They're nothing but do-gooders.” The word wasn't “do-gooders”-what was the word he used? It means patronizing; you patronize the labor people. I think he said, “They are nothing but patronizers. They are patronizers of the labor movement. That goes for her, too,”

Well, I mean, I was so shocked that I scarcely heard what else he said. It was so startling to have this come out,