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Then he said, “Well,” nodding his head and rubbing his chin--“Well, there's one thing you have to remember. You have to remember what Sidney is. And I guess he's just got a swelled head. That's what's happened to Sidney. He's got a swelled head. We'll have to remember it.”

That's all he said. That was the end of it. Of course he died so soon. But I know--I know him well enough to know--that he would have been extraordinarily cautious, and that there would have been no more intimacy and no more reliance upon Sidney. You can be polite to him. You can be outwardly and ostensibly friendly, but you don't rely on him for anything.

Now, I feel that there had been a terrific change in Hillman, but I think it was according to his nature. And I think the Devil took him up on a high place and showed him the kingdoms of the world, as he does so many people. This just went to his head.

Of course, Sidney died before--what, nearly two years. But I never will forget: when I saw Sidney at Roosevelt's funeral, I almost spat at him. I had a revulsion, immediately, that he should come, looking so sad. Oh, but he was a very emotional fellow, and he was shocked by Roosevelt's death. But the day before, he was about to fly to England, and he was ready to stab him. Then he cancelled his flight, and came to the funeral.

Do you have any memory of seeing Roosevelt