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No. What was the Montgomery Ward case, a strike?

That was when they carried Sewell Avery out.

That was during the N.R.A.

Oh, no it was not. Certainly it was not. It was right during the War.

Oh, that's right. Oh yes, that's right. But of course Sewell Avery had been a problem to us in the N.R.A. days, and he had been a terrible problem, so I tended to mix the two things in my mind.

Yes, this was peculiar. Who was administrating that outfit then? How did the soldiers get there? But Truman, without any thought at all, said, “All right, enforce the law on him. Call out the military and have them do it.”

I remember that plainly, that he seemed to have no compunction.

I'm confused about that. I think it was done under Roosevelt, wasn't it, the carrying out, when the soldiers carried this man out? You remember the picture? It was during the war all right.

I thought it was N.R.A. days. I can't think when it was. I would have thought it was Roosevelt, and it was soldiers carried him out, and I don't remember why. I don't remember