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unfavorable things, and he's just not an honest man.”

This was Francis Biddle talking to me about his Solicitor-General. Or was he--? Well, I had known for some time that you could get the Solicitor-General to do almost anything. It was a very, very strange appointment. Francis said to me, “I don't know whether it's true or not. I just don't know. Nothing has been said to me.”

He said, “I also read yesterday that Schwellenback is going to replace you,” and I said, “That's right, I read that too, but I don't know anything about that. I don't know anything against Mr. Schwellenbach at all. He's a perfect blank to me. I was on a reasonably good relationship with him when he was here as a Senator, but I don't remember him very much. But he is a labor lawyer. He's taken labor cases in his own state, and I presume he's got something on the ball. But I don't know, and I doubt if it's true.”

Anyhow--I don't remember what else came up, but I decided I'd go in and see Steve that day. I often stopped in after Cabinet meeting to see various people. I went into Steve's office, and found him-- He was a very emotional and stirred up kind of a fellow anyhow. He was often very hot under the collar, and he was very hot under the collar about things that day and very stirred up, and breathing with his nostrils, extending them, you know.