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director. It broke down one or two. Then the third fellow, a very nice man who came in, finally did put it on its feet. I think he did a heroic job, because he managed to steer clear of the idiotic performances. But it nearly killed him. He had a nervous breakdown afterwards. He was an all in young man. I can't think what his name is, but he's back now, he's got some good industrial job.

What interests me was that the McNutt outfit never did a thing, and it was the most expensive operation that we had in the whole war, that War Manpower Commission. And so far as I can make out, it accomplished next to nothing.

Why do you say it was the most expensive?

Because it cost so much to set these things up.

I'm sure it didn't cost as much as W.P.B., for instance.

Well, it probably didn't. I don't know how much that cost. No, I have no per operation measure. One of the things that I used to be moved to laughter about was the extraordinary expense it was going to be to set up a War Manpower Commission somewhere in Texas, and so forth. And of course another one of the great problems was how to make the whites ride in the elevator with the