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Frances Perkins - Interview 101, side 1 - 24 May, 1955 - 2127 Le Roy Place N.W., Washington, D.C. This interview taken on a tape-recorder.


We haven't ever dealt with the Civil Service Commission, nor the beginning of the loyalty business.

Miss Perkins:

I left the Government in 1945, July 1, 1945, and I pursued my own affairs until October, '46--writing a book and undertaking activities in the I.L.O. which I have described.


Did I ever ask you about the writing of your book? I don't think I have.

Miss Perkins:

Let's not go into that, that's so dumb.


No, it isn't. How did you happen to write the book in the first place?


How did I happen to write it? Well, George Bye, a literary agent whom I've known and who was a literary agent for several people around, came to see me one day. It was after Roosevelt had died, I guess, but before I left the Government, in that period between April and July. He said to me, “I've come to see you on a very serious matter.” I was on joking terms with him. He said, “I want you to write a book. I want you to write a book about what you've seen in

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