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be functioning, you know, with somebody somewhere--although he claimed he didn't know who she was, thought she was a newspaper reporter, and he was trying to be popular with the Press.

They wanted very much to get her before them on that case and on another case, and Richardson took it up with J.Fdgar Hoover, you see, took it up with the F.B.I.

Well, yes, they would attempt to get her. They had agreed that in certain very difficult cases where it was necessary to reveal a witness and where there was no other way of doing it, they would attempt to get the witness to appear. Of course, other witnesses could be asked to appear if they were willing to, and the F.B.I. would ask them to, even if they were not their own agents and in their employ.

They made this great effort. They postponed the hearing, and she agreed to come. Then she wired that she couldn't come, and then they postponed the hearing to the next week, and then she was going to come but she couldn't. Three or four times the members of the panel came to Washington for the express purpose of hearing her, and each time she slid off and didn't appear. And they had no sub-poena power. They couldn't get her to appear, and the F.B.I. wouldn't produce her. Of course the F.B.I. could have, and I remember Seth Richardson said to me, “If the F.B.I. wanted to do this, they could make