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have been a wonderful help. They did at the end, yes. At the end something happened. I'll tell you about that.

I had an enormous amount of material dictated. I finally got the first part of it so it was really kind of falling into chapters properly, and I got my preamble or beginning dictated. That sort of served to keep me on the steady path, because I wrote into that preamble what it was I intended to do in this book, and what it was I knew I couldn't do, or couldn't be done without more effort and more time than I had, which was the tracing up of all kinds of biographical material.

Did you include that biographical material on the first draft?

Oh, no. There is no biographical material--no autobiographical material.

Oh, yes there is.

Well, that's incidental. I don't think that I meant it. This was George Bye that urged me to do that. He said, “Just tell your story naturally. You tell about Roosevelt in connection with yourself.”

We chose the name very early, The Roosevelt I Knew, although the publishers afterwards had another thought. They had two or three other titles they wanted. I don't