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start me writing, really. I don't think he had any approach in mind, but anyhow, he said, “Just leave that be. You met him first some time at a tea dance, and then how'd you get to Albany?”

Well, that's how I got to Albany--I was working for the Consumer's League.

“And who else was there? Get all those in. Get it set in its surroundings. Then go on, because from then on, it's pretty clear sailing. You did this, and then you did this, and something else happened.”

But it didn't work out that way. You abandoned your chronological approach completely--you got one third of the way through, abandoned chronology completely, and went onto topics.

Yes, but up until that time I'd done chronology. That was the way I did the first part of it. After he became President, you see, it was different. I broke the book up afterwards, really, in consultation with the publishers and other people. There was a lot written that was cut out--lots and lots written that was cut out.

This dictaphone solved the problem for me, because I found I knew more and remembered more about more things than I could possibly believe--I mean, I'd just crowd