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I don't know what brought about that uneasiness. It was undoubtedly information that the F.B.I. had, and it was information that other people had, and it was a reaction of suspicion to the Russians which had begun to set in following a period of considerable good will toward the Russians during the War, when we'd had them over here in considerable numbers, you remember. Workmen, working- women, had come at the Government's expense. They had come on the same terms as the English and French workers had come, to rally the enthusiasm of our working people for the general cause of the War.

But the information kept coming in to this Committee. Mr. Harry Mitchell was considerably suspicious of it. He didn't think it was solid, and he didn't think it was altogether right, and he was quite horrified at the suggestions that were being made as to things to do. I mean the suggestions that were made as to ways of getting rid of people in the Government.

Were Kenneth Royale and Gus still poking things up in the President's office? In '48?

Oh, yes. I think so. I'm not sure, but I think so. I can't recall, but I think so.

There were others, you see, in this conference.