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The Remington case came up somewhere in there, and the Hiss case?

The Hiss case didn't come up. You see, Hiss was not in the Government. The Remington case was the celebrated case. First they found against Remington, and then they found for Remington, and he was restored to duty. They were very much split about that. It was a very difficult case. And it was on his second trial, you see, after this Board had gone out of office, that he perjured himself. The evidence that was before the Loyalty Review Board, in the Remington case, lacked the evidence that was brought before the court at his indictment. That was how he was indicted. He was indicted on the testimony of two or three witnesses from that Southern town in which he had lived, and in which he was alleged to have attended Communist meetings. The first witnesses that were heard by the Loyalty Review Board said no, that the meetings they went to in somebody's house were not Communist meetings. They were just kind of union meetings and intellectual meetings and so forth.

Then they turned up later two other witnesses which never appeared before the Loyalty Review Board, but did appear before the court when he was indicted, and stated that they had been members of that group, that they had met in that home, and that it was a Communist meeting. It was a cello,