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as you know, and it does--and there's no question about this--it does put a question of double loyalty to the most conscientious man who is ever appointed to office. If he is a real Communist, a member of the Communist party, he promises by all that's holy that he will follow the party line and he will not have any private independent judgments, and he's a true believer, if he joins the Communist Party. And that at once puts him in this situation of a questionable loyalty.

Interviewer:

But I know a lot of true believers who are not Communists.

Perkins:

Oh well, true believers of something else, not of Communism.

Interviewer:

Still you've got that split loyalty; this is the nature of the true believer.

Perkins:

I don't know. I don't know what you mean by that.

Interviewer:

Using it in the Eric Hoffer sense.

Perkins:

Well. I see. In that sense, yes. But in general, the true believer hasn't any political views. His true beliefs are about something else. Nevertheless, a man who joins the Communist Party makes certain pledges to the Communist Party. Now, perhaps those pledges are false.





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