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Now you see, that Board also had to go on the evidence which was presented to them, which they could not disclose, and that was the dreadful part of all these actions. It could not be an open trial, openly conducted, with the confused confronting his accusers. He did not know the names of the witnesses. Sometimes the Board itself didn't know the names. Usually they didn't. This was the way the report would read: “T, 25, known to be a reliable witness, says that this man's name appears on the list of the members of the Communist Party in Scranton, Pennsylvania. He paid his dues in 1939, 1940, 1942, so many years. He was a member in good and regular standing.”

That's T, 25, known to be a reliable reporter. You say, “Who is T, 25?”

“Well, we can't disclose his name. He's an agent of the F.B.I.”

“Does he work for the F.B.I.?”

“Well, we can't say that. Oh, he works for the F.B.I., yes.”

“Is he a regular F.B.I. agent, or is he a special informer?”

“Well, he may be either one.”

Usually, when they know the names of the persons who are members of the Communist Party and know it by having





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