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are speaking only for themselves.

I think these are both true. I think that the civil rights organizations apparently do not have a following because they don't have leadership. [TAPE INTERRUPTION]

No, what is really to me very obvious is that there is no leadership and therefore no organized-- the blacks are caught between the economic and political conservatism of the President and the lack of any effective-- or any kind of leadership among blacks. They're in a quandary. I don't think they know what to do. The closest they can come to anything is to try to get some kind of political-- there have been developments in the political arena since we talked last. You know, the increase in the number of blacks elected to political office, an increase in the number of black mayors, black Congressmen. As far as I can see, this political development, in terms of the increase in the number of political officials, black political officials, this fact has not yet expressed itself in terms of any kind of civil rights development. It has not yet expressed itself in terms of any economic development on the part of blacks. The fact still remains that an unbelievable percentage of black youth are unemployed.

They say fifty per cent, but I think it's probably closer to seventy per cent.