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in the homelands, because I don't think very many blacks would be
able to afford them.
And there's probably an electrical shortage?
And electricity servicing charges too?
So that's my view of South Africa. It's a very pathetic
country and its pathos involves all kinds of inconsistencies,
irrationalities, including its government's policies.
Could we come to the PLO in the context of American black
interest? We've talked about Andy Young and his treating, at
least informationally, in some fashion with the PLO. What do you
believe Andy Young was trying to accomplish in developing a
Exactly what he said. Andy Young was just saying what my
former friend, confidante, Professor Ralph Bunche had said years
before, that in order to have any kind of peace, eventual peace,
in the Middle East, one had to take into account the reality that
the Palestinians were human beings. There had to be
communication. And to this day I can't understand our
government's position on that. I really can't. These are human
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