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quite recently, hasn't he?

Yes.

Now is there another divergence view among blacks in dealing specifically with the PLO, not the Palestinian problem as a whole? For example, I was just re-reading an Op Ed piece in the TIMES, authored by Bayard Rustin in 1979, in which he was sharply critical of the blacks that seemed to be taking sides with the PLO against Israel, because he says no matter how you look at it, the PLO is a terrorist organization.

But that's Bayard's position?

Yes.

He's been pretty consistent on that position. [Yasir] Arafat is considered by many people not always the leader of a terrorist group. It's interesting that leaders of Middle East countries don't view him-- they talk to Arafat. And even [King] Hussein said, you know, that one has to communicate with the Palestinians through the PLO. I don't know that any other group has assumed any spokesman leadership role among Palestinians other than the PLO. And the question of terrorism, I guess, is by-- and certainly in the Middle East-- a question that's determined by how you define it. Certainly the massacre of the