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whites with whom blacks came in contact in the ghettos, merchants and landlords and whatever, at the time. But it was not the same as anti-Semitism among whites.

But again, to me the blanket term anti-Semitism among blacks, or even among somebody like Jesse Jackson, or for that matter even Farrakhan-- to put that in the same category as traditional anti-Semitism, the centuries of anti-Semitism that you see among whites, is to confuse the issues. But, you see, again I'm expressing to you Kenneth Clark's confused view of a problem that many people see quite simply. Why Jesse used the term “Hymies” and “Hymietown”, I do not know. I don't see what the hell it had to do with anything important or relevant that he was trying to say. I don't understand why the black reporter felt that it was something that he had to write, any more than white reporters report anti-black statements that whites in public-- you know, public officials-- I'm sure that the blacks have been the victims of-- it's almost a matter of normal communication, to make anti- black statements. Many times blacks make them, but they're not made big public issues. There's one now in New York State, where the Commissioner of Corrections is being asked to resign because of some anti-black statement which he made-- anti-blacks and anti-Hispanics-- made in terms of blacks and crime.

Well, interestingly enough, our liberal Governor maybe rightly is saying, no, he's not going to ask him to resign. Jimmy Breslin wrote a column in which he said, you know, the fact