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I do like African art.

Yes, you have a good deal of it in your office here. I noticed.

I am bored with my limited view of the predicament of our nation. I wish that I saw things more-- what is the word? You probably saw the interview in the TIMES with Goodman? Where the headline was “I'm Bewildered”. I was quite honest with him and he wrote a very accurate piece. What I didn't say and I'm saying to you on these tapes is that my bewilderment bores me. I'm trying to finish up a book that I've been working on for the last ten years, and one of the rationalizations for my procrastination is that I wish that I had something positive to say in that book.

Now as far as some of these anti-Semitic remarks go, what you said there-- you said something about that it wasn't necessarily specifically anti-Semitic, but more anti-white?

It's anti-white, but that's been true for a long time. And it's certainly different. As I look at what is called anti-Semitism among blacks, I do not see it as being the same as anti-Semitism among whites.

This brought out of my memory my own recollection of the