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What are these, seven-year terms?

Now. I was the last Regent to be elected to a fifteen-year term, and the reason, I guess, I was elected to a fifteen-year term-- because they already were deciding to reduce it-- they didn't want to make it appear that they were electing the black to a seven-year term when all previous-- and I thought that was racism, because I would just as soon have had a seven-year term, believe me.

Going back to the genesis of your appointment, which you say you really don't know much about, did anything evolve though so that you could at least speculate later on as to why they chose you?

Not the slightest. I must tell you again, I don't know why they chose me. And if they were wise, I don't think they would have chosen me.

But Dr. Clark-- and I say this certainly in a completely fair way-- but as a personality, your various demeanors and so forth, wasn't that pretty well known at the time?

I guess so. I'd had my battles and struggles with Adam Powell. And it may have been, you know, that it was J. Raymond Jones who was behind the scenes in that, I don't know. No one