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are equally intelligent, but it does mean that we do not make premature judgments about the intellect or potential of a child on the basis of tests, particularly when there are indications that this particular child has not had ample opportunity to overcome educational bias.

Q:

Of course the tests-- even those that are competently constructed, relatively competently-- still are limited measures, are they not?

Clark:

Oh, no question about it. Sure.

Q:

Let me use this as a genesis of this question. Am I recalling correctly, the great psychologist, Lewis Terman, who developed the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Test, went on some time, I think beginning in the early twenties, with his studies of gifted children-- I believe that study is either still going on or just recently concluded-- where he found that generally speaking not as many of those gifted children achieved as highly as might have been expected.

Clark:

Your achievement is not just based upon your test score. A number of things are involved, you know, such as motivation, accidents. All sorts of things are determining where, what arrives in life. For example, there's Harvard. A very prestigious university, a tremendous endowment, a high degree of selectivity of faculty and students. The major intellectual creativity in our society is not concentrated at Harvard. I used to tell my students, major black writers have never one to college. Richard Wright never went to college. Jim Baldwin





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