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people who were appointed. This did not leave very much room for that kind of interpretation.

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That was Hilton Clark that just came in to drop off the newspaper.

I believe that these people had enough of not only distortion, not only--I'm trying to get a word that is more euphemistic than lying. But that in the context of the other things seemed to have made it difficult to avoid the conclusion that this man is using the Office of Civil Rights against blacks, and memos that his own staff--and I think that was enough. It didn't need to be in the context of Meese. They had no difficulty with Meese. This would still be a [?].

Yes, and was there a little more direct confrontation here on the part of Bradford Reynolds in that his testimony lead the Senators, or some Senators to think that he was deliberately trying to hoodwink them?

Not only deliberately trying to hoodwink them but hoodwinking them in terms of his anti-black feelings, and I'd like to--

In other words, he's really trying to veil the fact that he was performing anti-black activities to the extent that he was?