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Bella Abzug was supposed to be the front runner and then Koch came up from behind and took it.

Percy did everything he could behind the scenes to get Rangel and others to support Hilton. He got his nephew who is a district leader to support Hilton.

What's his nephew's name?

Sutton, but I don't--I think it's David Button.

David?

I think so. I'm not sure.

This footnote question, and I think the answer is probably implicit in what you've already said. But as you were talking about Hilton's independence and everything, I couldn't help but think of the primary campaign for Congress that Bella Abzug waged against Bill Ryan who, I think, was the first reform Democrat, I believe, to go to Congress.

That's right.

Although Bella's positions, at least by the time of the primary, were compatible with the reform Democrats her challenging Ryan rather than saying challenging a conservative Democrat from Staten Island