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candidates. My feeling is that ho one of them that has been mentioned so far will have the peculiar Hollywood quality that has sustained Mr; Reagan in which the Party is banking on, the Republican Party is banking on, and probably believe will carry them through the Republican victory in the Presidency next time. But if the Democrats can come up with more solid candidates, and not have to buck the Hollywood smiles and inconsistencies, and “great communicator” qualities of Mr. Reagan we may not have to go through another four years of Republican conservatism unless Kean--Kean is the name, isn't it?

Kean, that's how it's pronounced, I believe.

Unless Kean becomes a dominant force or factor in the Republican Party. Then there will be a choice, I think, between the two parties that is not the, to me, the negatives of the conservative, the Reagan-Meese domination of the Republican Party. Why are we just spending so much time on politics, because of Hilton?

That sort of war [the laughs lead-in]--today. You've mentioned the [Edwin] Meese approach. You were talking about his repeatedly expressed view of the Bill of Rights as to whether or not it should be incorporated in to the states, and he says--I think he used the word, it's “bizarre” that it should be.

I think he is bizarre. His civil rights, affirmative action retreat, which I really can't understand:--I don't understand what the