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I want to come to another program which I believe also was
initiated under the Great Society, Lyndon Johnson. That's the
“support a small business”. I don't know that I've asked you to what
extent that you and your consultancy work here have gotten involved
with the Small Business [Administration], especially in so far as it
was supposed to benefit minorities.
We've gotten involved more in terms of paper than in terms of
any substantive support and help. I don't whether we are peculiar.
By paper, reports it's [?]?
Well, we give correspondence. There's someone who is
responsible--my son was the one who had that responsibility. But we
have never gotten any financial benefits from the Small Business
Administration. I think we might have gotten one or two contracts
I was also thinking whether you were used in a consultative
capacity to advise on the channeling of these funds to other
No, no. We never had a direct contact with the SBA [Small
Business Administration]. Our experience with government agencies,
federal government agencies, and our work has been not particularly
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