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Did they make any remarks to you about it?
Oh, to me? Yes. I never spoke to Mr. Goddesman again. I guess there were many opportunities to speak to him, because I was graduating. But if I met him in the street, I would ignore him. As far as I was concerned, he was dead.
Did your fellow students --
--commiserate?
Commiserate or express any outrage even?
No outrage. Commiseration. I mean, it was the pre-outrage days. No, it was commiseration. They all, in lunch period, you know -- the prizes, I guess, must have been announced before the actual commencement., who was going to get what.
Incidentally, where was the junior high school that you attended?
139, on 139th St. between Seventh and Lenox Avenues. It's still there. P.S. 5 is not still there, but 139 is still there, expanded and overcrowded and deteriorated.
Now, during this school period, did your mother and you and your sister continue to live for the most part in what is now Harlem?
Yes. My mother, like most upwardly mobile Americans I guess, was constantly moving to better neighborhoods. You know, as a neighborhood -- even before it actually started to deteriorate, my mother and my grandmother -- my mother was always the leader of the family, and she would decide that we had to move. But all through high school,
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