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Clark:

Absolutely.

Q:

Incidentally, are your trips to Jamaica mainly for vacationing, or for social studies?

Clark:

Vacation -- no matter what I tell the I.R.S. Yeah, it's for vacation. I have gone, when I was president of the American Psychological Association, I did the very risky thing of having our annual retreat in Montego Bay. And it was a very productive meeting of our board. But most of the time, when I go to Jamaica, it's for vacation.

By telling you that story, you know, I repeat, I've never told that before it didn't... I don't think I even told that when I was in analysis. It's a pretty traumatic thing. I see that maid now, spreading that white tablecloth today... knowing damn well that-- they didn't even put us in a separate room. You know, that would have been bad enough, but at least would have spared us -- spared me the experience of watching these hungry kids seeing us eat.

Q:

This is probably a footnote question, but when you've been in Jamaica in recent years, have you looked at all at the Rastafarians movement?

Clark:

Not systematically. I saw them. You know, I saw-- they were damn highly visible to me. They went out of their way to look repulsive, so you couldn't miss them. But I never made any systematic--

Q:

You never went back into, I think theycall it Cockpit Country, that they have?





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