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a continuity, in terms of concern. And when this idea occurred to some of us that it was stupid to have the Capitol of the United States having a restaurant in it that didn't serve Negroes, we wondered why the hell we waited so long, in our protesting, and when we protested, we didn't anticipate being arrested. But when we got arrested, we were arrested.

I was surprised as hell at the Irish sergeant, not only taking our side, but doing it right in front of us, and giving his subordinates hell, and having them take our names off the books. He really had them scratch it out then. I mean, that must have been a risky thing, for him to do.

Washington much more recently had the reputation of being a Jim Crow city.

That's right. And in '35, -- God, it was -- you know, it was Southern, Deep Southern in that regard.

Before we get too far from your newspaper experience at school, do you recall what some of the editorials were about, the subject matter, especially those that got you into trouble with the administration?

Obviously they had to do with the university's role in the area of not being sufficiently concerned with racial problems. Yes, by my junior year, I was on the racial justice kick. And it seemed to me that I was judging everybody, in all institutions, in terms of the extent to which I personally believed they were or were not on the