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experience, Dr. Clark, after having studied some Spanish, quite a bit of Spanish and some French -- then I had to learn German, and I had a terrible time with it, mainly because of the suffixes coming at the very end of a sentence, and you didn't know what the thought of the sentence was. I was just curious, I guess, to know --

Well, he would deal with things like that, you know. He would try to show me the logic of that, why these suffixes, and why the sentence structure was the way it was, different, when it was, from English. I just wish I were more adept. I wish I had been a better student for him. I don't think that I had anything to do with his suicide. I just don't like for people whom I like to commit suicide. And if I thought that, if I'd been a better student of German, that it would have kept him from committing suicide, I probably might have studied harder.

When you mention that you threw yourself fully into your psychology studies, did this mean all of the different courses in psychology, or were you more interested in those leaning towards philosophy a little more?

No. That's interesting. I got interested in psychology in toto, and particularly in the physiological and neurophysiological. This man, Sumner, -- I told you, his major personal interest was clearly in history and theory. Nonetheless, he made us understand at if we were going to understand behavior of the human being, we had to understand the behaving organism. I couldn't say he was a