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to be submitted to the President's Committee on Juvenile Delinquency, for the programmatic funding. See, all we had in the first year was the planning funds, the solid planning funds, not the pre-planning funds.

But the goal of this document was to get the federal funds for implementing the program that we designed and presented in the document.

It was submitted, and needless to say, had to be submitted also to the chairman of the Education and Labor Committee, and don't let anybody ever tell you that Adam never did his homework.

Naively, I thought that a document of this size was not going to be read. How many pages? Over 600 pages.


That's oversize format, too, almost like a Sears-Roebuck catalogue.


Right. And I -- one of the strategies of that document was that the average practical politician, even with the more conscientious assistants, would not read it, or if they did read it, would read it sort of casually, and certainly not analyze the full implications of it.

I will confess that I really believed that. I thought that the staff of the President's Committee on Juvenile Delinquency would read it And I had no doubt that we were going to get the grant, and I had a hard, tough-minded senior staff, you know, that said, “Let's go for broke, ask for X millions of dollars to do this,” and we went for broke.

So --


You're raising an awful lot of questions today, Dr. Clark. I haven't got to them.

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