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and this is not a particularly pleasant thing for me to say -- is that if, and we'll never know, if he would have succeeded, but if he had succeeded in getting the others released, -- and by the way, it is interesting, if you look at the life cycle of these terrorist acts, the longer the negotiations continue, the less the chances of fatalities and violence for the hostages.

It is a dilemma. It's a moral dilemma, as to what one does, in terms of meeting demands of terrorists, in terms of balancing the demands and the acquiescence to demands in terms of the sparing of the lives of the hostages. It's a terrible dilemma to be confronted with. And it is something, I guess, that will take time in negotiating.

Now, none of the stories that I see take that factor into account, in terms of the Ugandan role. But I guess it's just tough, you know, now that this brilliant military maneuver has been pulled off, allegedly with success -- a success curiously defined in terms of the fact that only 20 Ugandan soldiers were killed, you know, only 20 -- it just so happens that those 20 human beings had families. And my friends dismissed their deaths on the grounds that they were defending the terrorists.

I said, “Where's the evidence that they were defending the terrorists?” You know. “Could it be that it's the responsibility of the military in all nations to defend the territorial integrity of their land? Certainly nobody disputes that this airport was part of Uganda.”

My friend John countered by saying,” But built by the