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reference to Ralph Bunche's position relative to the death
of Lumumba, that he took somewhat of a position, I believe at
the United Nations, that the death of Lumumba wasn't all bad.
Did I say that?
I believe you made some fleeting reference --
Well, no, if I said that, I shouldn't have, because I don't
remember ever discussing --
-- that he kind of took an establishment position.
Well, at the time, Ralph Bunche was Under Secretary --
-- yes --
-- of the UN, and I remember that some blacks, including
?Lorraine Hansberry, had a demonstration at the UN, and if I
remember correctly, they charged Ralph Bunche with either indifference
or insensitivity, if not conspiracy in some way. I never shared that,
and -- well, I didn't share it because I certainly knew of no evidence
to support it, and I guess basically because I was then and have
always been, throughout his life, identified with Ralph Bunche.
I mean, I just couldn't conceive of his --
-- you may have made this reference to Lorra inez Hansberry.
Yes. I would never entertain the notion that Bunche would be
knowingly a part of any conspiracy to take the life of
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