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about the J. Edgar Hoover reconciliation thing. I think he should
have defied Hoover, to pay all his damned tapes, you know. And as
far as I'm concerned, that would have damaged Hoover a hell of a lot
more than it would have damaged Martin. Again, I didn't prevail.
I was going to say, wiser heads prevailed in the advice to
Martin on that, except that I don't think they were wiser a bit. I
think they were -- want me to tell you what I think?
I think they were scared. At a time when they shouldn't
have been. I think they should have out-bluffed Hoover, rather than
capitulate to him, because I think Hoover was on the ropes, in his
calumny against Martin.
Of course, now, originally the existence of these tapes
was not publicly known.
Well, we knew it.
You knew it, and of course, that one infamous example, the
apparent blackmail attempt --
Through Coretta King. Did you discuss that particular tape
No. We discussed generally the existence of the tapes, the
leaking of the tapes to news men, reporters, and the
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