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Personally?

Yes. As an individual trustee.

I felt that there might have been an opportunity to. You always do that. If you say “yes,” you always illude your self into thinking, you know, may be you could it was -- five, six, seven, nine, ten years before I resigned. Then I knew that I wasn't going to make any personal contribution, or no other person was going to. The university was going to go in the direction that it had been going in.

You mean here you don't feel Howard University is going in the best possible direction under todays conditions?

No. I don't. And I don't want to talk about Howard University.

No, I think it's missing a great opportunity, and I don't think it'11 meet its opportunity by being merely imitative.

To come back to your book, DARK GHETTO, -- do I recall that you've already said in your reminiscences that as you were finishing up your studies for YOUTH IN THE GHETTO, you knew that there would be another book out of that?

Yes.

And if I remember right, that's a Harper and Rowe book?

1965.