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collective power, and at times, it worked.

That does not mean that, you know, they reached the ideal of subordinating individual ambition to group goals and strategy. But at least this dimension is now a part of the struggle of the blacks in New York City for a more equitable share.

Well, then you balance that by saying that actually, this experiment in collective power and influence has, as its manifestations of its success or failure, individuals. And what happens in regard to the placement of individuals in “influential positions.”

I mean, you don't place a group in a position, a public official position, you place an individual. And you seek to put behind individuals this kind of influence and power, to the extent that you have reason to believe that this individual will be sensitive to and responsive to the needs of the larger group, the large community.

That's not always the case, obviously, because you're dealing with human beings.

Now, why I was saying that I have a funny feeling that the Hundred Black Men might be --

I guess this is the last thing I'll say about the Group. There are two things that enter my mind. The first one I've already mentioned -- the danger of being satisfied with the public relations and the, I guess, essentially superficial or surface, the mayor type of success. The difficulty involved in building something more solid and powerful. The difficulty in terms of thinking and planning and experimenting with different methods and approaches. The