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Damn right. That's what I --
-- recruiting that level, --
-- exactly --
-- quality of talent --
Exactly. Thank you for understanding me, because I don't understand myself at times. But
that's really what I meant.
This is probably kind of a tricky question, because you've already told how the Group
metamorphosed in different ways, but I did have a question of whether, in spite of that,
you can make any judgment as to the reactions, comparative reactions that the group tried
to bring on the various mayors they worked with. I guess we're talking about certainly
Wagner and Lindsay, maybe Beame if you still observed that, since Beame's election.
I can be specific about it. We did get assignments, by the way. For example. Ben Dyett
and I went to Herb Lehman as an assignment from the Group. We didn't do anything on our
own, and sometimes we were assigned to talk to Wagner. At any rate, any conversation that
had to be had with Wagner -- that was Ray. That was automatic, Ray Jones's assignment.
That was even before he became political secretary, I think was the special title they
created for him, when -- at first, there was not --
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