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Re-chosen?

Yeah.

...Your son Hilton B. Clark is vice-president. Your wife Mamie Phipps Clark is treasurer. And Kate Clark Harris --

-- my daughter? --

-- is the secretary.

It's a family concern, obviously. We are the only stock-holders.

By the way, when did you get the idea of doing this?

As the time came for my retirement. I guess -- I'll tell you when it was. I retired in June of '76. I got the idea about February, March, when it became clear to me that I was not going to be able to retire into passivity. And Mamie reminded me that I'd never written anything without competing commitments, and she was sure that if I tried to write-- just write -- that I would have a hell of a time.

I took her seriously. And furthermore, I was beginning to sense it myself. So I said, “OK. The only thing I have to sell is ideas, so I'll go into business selling these ideas on race.” I've got to go. Do you think we ought to talk some more?

What I would suggest --

-- I think we're coming near the end.