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Foners. We had an affair to raise money someplace, maybe Fraternal Clubhouse. I know that our band played, that there were songs sung that had been written about the thing, and Irwin Corey performed, that George Hall, comedian, whom I knew before, and George Hall later became an informer, years later. As a matter of fact, he is currently in the show Noises Off. He was very funny and he was very non-New York City. He was from out of town. Before we knew it, we were out. We were suspended, and then we were out.

Let me go back for a second. Why was there a particular fund- raiser for The Friends of the Foners?

Well, I can't remember whether others had it, too, but I think that we, Henry and I, we knew people, and the students, we had close ties with students. It was, I remember, a very big event.

Where was it, do you remember?

Someplace I think I have, or Henry has, the ad that was run to support it.

Where was the ad?

If The Compass was published at that time, or P.M., it may have been there. I think it would have been unwise to have an ad in The Daily Worker. But I remember the event. I remember that Norman Franklin, who was in the band with us and also wrote, wrote a song called “Mrs. Foner Had Four Sons.” But they were writing songs on everything.

“They” being?

Normie, Henry. For example, the president of the college at that time was Wright, Harry Wright, I remember, and Normie wrote a song, “If Wright is Right, then Wrong is Wright,” that kind. There were very clever songs.

You don't remember any of the lyrics from “Mrs. Foner Had Four Sons”?

“Two single units and a double-decker,” the twins. Then there were individual sections on each person, and I don't remember them, but my brother Henry, I'm sure, has them all. He remembers everything. He has all that. He remembers all the songs of this period, of every period.